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Two pair 200bb deep on monotone

Discussion in 'Texas Holdem Hand Discussion' started by Pro2type, May 29, 2010.

  1. Pro2type

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    NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer Game#3350391213

    Nhiiii ($400)
    Mars1 ($459)
    masterhead ($554)
    Hero ($583)
    Pjotrek ($407)

    Nhiiii antes $0.20
    Mars1 antes $0.20
    masterhead antes $0.20
    Hero antes $0.20
    Pjotrek antes $0.20
    Mars1 posts (SB) $1
    masterhead posts (BB) $2


    Dealt to Hero: :Ac: :8c:
    Hero raises to $6
    fold ,
    Mars1 calls $5
    fold ,

    FLOP
    ($15) :Th: :Ah: :8h:
    Mars1 checks
    Hero bets $11
    Mars1 raises to $36


    Hi guys my opponent is 30/18/6,9 for over 250 hands call open from that position 55% and 3bet 0% so far for 11 hands, average 3bet 5% average squeeze 9% . On the flop folds to CB 56% and ch/raise 21%, agg freq 45%/33%/19%. I have some notes for him:
    - bet/calls AA OOP and after flop on low board checks 3 streets
    - 3 barrels JJ on A73-6-K
    - deep 200 ch/raise x3 set on wet board
    If we had 100-135bb it will be easy shove on the flop but here I`m not sure what is the best way to play?
     
  2. Marticha

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    I like to approach this kind of situation more passively, not to pump the pot too much, you know ;)

    So i'd like to call here, and see what happens on turn, i think with a raise here, you dont get too much more information than a call, cause you take it on the turn :)
     
  3. Zografa

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    i am not quite sure that this is easy shove even for 100-135bb, esp with 200bbs ill play this passive.

    Call flop and see whats happening on the turn. If i dont like the card/bet sizing i might release.
     
  4. Pro2type

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    When I said that I have no problem stackin` off I ment vs. this guy but for 200bb I`m def not happy about that idea. However on the turn it was total blank and he bet 3/4p ... what we are doing here?
     
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    well on a very blank turn(2-6 off) i think we can call again if his bet is something like 60ish into 85ish.

    Most of the time im folding to river bet if i dont have any reads that villain will do this with weaker holdings(his riv % is low so we can assume he is not going to bet river a lot without a real hand) and i think that there are lots of cards where villain will check and we can safely check back after him and see his hand.
     
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    Imo you are wrong here on the part w/ the stats, they are useless for 250 hands.

    - 3 barrels JJ on A73-6-K
    - deep 200 ch/raise x3 set on wet board

    those two are more important, but like you i think most river cards he is going to chek, and when he bets i tend to call sometimes if i have more information like game flow, table postion and timing tells...

    P.S.
    call turn
    spike 8
    profit
    ????? :)
     
  7. Zografa

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    yeah this is what i think too 250 hands is not a big sample at all, so we can ignore the stats but some ppl like to have everything explained based on stats

    + the reads/notes in the hand cannot help us or at least they dont affect our decision(at least the will not affect mine)
     
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