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Discussion in 'Покер ръце' started by ceno83, Mar 18, 2012.

  1. ceno83

    ceno83
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    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday , March 18 , 11:04:40 ET 2012
    Table Islamabad (Real Money)
    Seat 8 is the button
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $9.35 USD ) - VPIP: 17 , PFR: 15 , 3B: 6 , AF: 3.1 , Hands: 213
    Seat 3: Hero ( $10.58 USD ) - VPIP: 18 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 5 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 143001
    Seat 8: Player8 ( $7.52 USD ) - VPIP: 47 , PFR: 3 , 3B: 0 , AF: 1.0 , Hands: 34
    Seat 9: Player9 ( $8.10 USD ) - VPIP: 28 , PFR: 10 , 3B: 2 , AF: 3.1 , Hands: 148
    Seat 10: Player10 ( $5.00 USD ) - VPIP: 17 , PFR: 15 , 3B: 6 , AF: 3.1 , Hands: 213
    Player9 posts small blind $0.05 .
    Player10 posts big blind $0.10 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Kh: :Th:
    Player1 folds
    Hero raises $0.30
    Player8 calls $0.30
    Player9 folds
    Player10 folds


    FLOP ($0.75)
    :6c: :5s: :3d:
    Hero bets $0.55
    Player8 calls $0.55


    TURN ($1.85)
    :Ks:
    Hero bets $1.40
    Player8 raises $2.80
    Hero raises $8.33
    Player8 calls $3.87


    RIVER ($18.25)
    :9c:
    Player8 wins $14.18 USD from main pot
    Hero shows :Kh: :Th:
    Player8 shows :9h: :Kd:
    Hero wins $3.06 USD


    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday , March 18 , 11:56:42 ET 2012
    Table Maracay (Real Money)
    Seat 2 is the button
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $16.83 USD ) - VPIP: 32 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 2 , AF: 2.2 , Hands: 229
    Seat 4: Player4 ( $7.90 USD ) - VPIP: 22 , PFR: 12 , 3B: 4 , AF: 3.1 , Hands: 215
    Seat 6: Player6 ( $15.64 USD ) - VPIP: 73 , PFR: 0 , 3B: 0 , AF: 1.5 , Hands: 89
    Seat 7: Hero ( $11.45 USD ) - VPIP: 18 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 5 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 143001
    Seat 8: Player8 ( $10.10 USD ) - VPIP: 26 , PFR: 19 , 3B: 4 , AF: 1.2 , Hands: 80
    Seat 9: Player9 ( $12.28 USD ) - VPIP: 14 , PFR: 7 , 3B: 0 , AF: 3.3 , Hands: 92
    Player4 posts small blind $0.05 .
    Player6 posts big blind $0.10 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Td: :Qd:
    Hero raises $0.30
    Player8 folds
    Player9 calls $0.30
    Player2 folds
    Player4 folds
    Player6 calls $0.20


    FLOP
    :4d: :Kd: :Js:
    Player6 bets $0.10
    Hero raises $0.80
    Player9 folds
    Player6 raises $1.40
    Hero calls $0.70


    TURN
    :Qs:
    Player6 bets $3.95
    Hero calls $3.95


    RIVER
    :6h:
    Player6 bets $9.89
    Hero folds
    Player6 wins $11.06 USD from main pot
    Player6 wins $9.89 USD


    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday , March 18 , 11:14:21 ET 2012
    Table London (Real Money)
    Seat 2 is the button
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $10.00 USD ) - VPIP: 28 , PFR: 20 , 3B: 5 , AF: 3.0 , Hands: 80
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $11.09 USD ) - VPIP: 25 , PFR: 17 , 3B: 10 , AF: 2.4 , Hands: 375
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $5.75 USD ) - VPIP: 73 , PFR: 30 , 3B: 18 , AF: 1.1 , Hands: 40
    Seat 8: Hero ( $9.85 USD ) - VPIP: 18 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 5 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 143001
    Seat 9: Player9 ( $4.80 USD ) - VPIP: 24 , PFR: 15 , 3B: 0 , AF: 1.8 , Hands: 33
    Player3 posts small blind $0.05 .
    Hero posts big blind $0.10 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Td: :Qd:
    Player9 raises $0.20
    Player1 calls $0.20
    Player2 folds
    Player3 calls $0.15
    Hero calls $0.10


    FLOP
    :Jd: :Qh: :4d:
    Player3 checks
    Hero bets $0.60
    Player9 raises $4.60
    Player1 folds
    Player3 folds
    Hero calls $4.00


    TURN
    :9s:


    RIVER
    :9h:
    Player9 wins $9.34 USD from main pot
    Hero shows :Td: :Qd:
    Player9 shows :Qc: :Kc:


    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday , March 18 , 12:11:08 ET 2012
    Table Antananarivo (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $4.27 USD ) - VPIP: 42 , PFR: 19 , 3B: 6 , AF: 1.8 , Hands: 43
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $3.07 USD ) - VPIP: 74 , PFR: 9 , 3B: 0 , AF: 1.8 , Hands: 23
    Seat 6: Hero ( $10.30 USD ) - VPIP: 18 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 5 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 143001
    Seat 8: Player8 ( $10.54 USD ) - VPIP: 27 , PFR: 21 , 3B: 0 , AF: 1.8 , Hands: 52
    Seat 9: Player9 ( $0.99 USD ) - VPIP: 35 , PFR: 24 , 3B: 25 , AF: 1.5 , Hands: 17
    Seat 10: Player10 ( $5.85 USD ) - VPIP: 42 , PFR: 19 , 3B: 6 , AF: 1.8 , Hands: 43
    Hero posts small blind $0.05 .
    Player8 posts big blind $0.10 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Qc: :Qh:
    Player9 folds
    Player10 folds
    Player1 folds
    Player3 calls $0.10
    Hero raises $0.45
    Player8 folds
    Player3 calls $0.40


    FLOP
    :3c: :5s: :9s:
    Hero bets $9.80
    Player3 calls $2.57


    TURN
    :7s:


    RIVER
    :As:
    Player3 wins $5.83 USD from main pot
    Player3 shows :4d: :6d:
    Hero shows :Qc: :Qh:
    Hero wins $7.23 USD


    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday , March 18 , 11:11:56 ET 2012
    Table Camarillo (Real Money)
    Seat 5 is the button
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $10.33 USD ) - VPIP: 25 , PFR: 17 , 3B: 10 , AF: 2.4 , Hands: 375
    Seat 4: Player4 ( $9.70 USD ) - VPIP: 35 , PFR: 7 , 3B: 2 , AF: 3.1 , Hands: 306
    Seat 5: Player5 ( $6.34 USD ) - VPIP: 93 , PFR: 0 , 3B: 0 , AF: 0.7 , Hands: 74
    Seat 7: Player7 ( $9.90 USD ) - VPIP: 27 , PFR: 16 , 3B: 4 , AF: 7.0 , Hands: 88
    Seat 8: Hero ( $9.85 USD ) - VPIP: 18 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 5 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 143001
    Player7 posts small blind $0.05 .
    Hero posts big blind $0.10 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Qd: :9d:
    Player1 folds
    Player4 calls $0.10
    Player5 calls $0.10
    Player7 folds
    Hero checks


    FLOP
    :Ad: :Td: :Qh:
    Hero bets $0.25
    Player4 calls $0.25
    Player5 calls $0.25


    TURN
    :4c:
    Hero bets $0.85
    Player4 folds
    Player5 raises $1.70
    Hero calls $0.85


    RIVER
    :3h:
    Hero checks
    Player5 bets $3.50
    Hero folds
    Player5 wins $4.20 USD from main pot
    Player5 shows :Qs: :Qc:
    Player5 wins $3.50 USD


    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday , March 18 , 11:34:09 ET 2012
    Table Antananarivo (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $3.50 USD ) - VPIP: 42 , PFR: 19 , 3B: 6 , AF: 1.8 , Hands: 43
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $5.84 USD ) - VPIP: 16 , PFR: 12 , 3B: 2 , AF: 2.5 , Hands: 1971
    Seat 6: Hero ( $9.60 USD ) - VPIP: 18 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 5 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 143001
    Seat 8: Player8 ( $15.11 USD ) - VPIP: 13 , PFR: 9 , 3B: 5 , AF: 2.5 , Hands: 314
    Seat 9: Player9 ( $10.00 USD ) - VPIP: 42 , PFR: 25 , 3B: 0 , AF: 2.5 , Hands: 24
    Seat 10: Player10 ( $5.25 USD ) - VPIP: 42 , PFR: 19 , 3B: 6 , AF: 1.8 , Hands: 43
    Hero posts small blind $0.05 .
    Player8 posts big blind $0.10 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Th: :Qh:
    Player9 raises $0.30
    Player10 folds
    Player1 folds
    Player3 folds
    Hero calls $0.25
    Player8 calls $0.20


    FLOP
    :Tc: :9h: :Js:
    Hero bets $0.50
    Player8 calls $0.50
    Player9 folds


    TURN
    :7h:
    Hero bets $1.25
    Player8 calls $1.25


    RIVER
    :Jc:
    Hero checks
    Player8 checks
    Player8 wins $4.11 USD from main pot
    Hero shows :Th: :Qh:
    Player8 shows :Jh: :Ad:


    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday , March 18 , 11:43:04 ET 2012
    Table Camarillo (Real Money)
    Seat 6 is the button
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $9.64 USD ) - VPIP: 25 , PFR: 17 , 3B: 10 , AF: 2.4 , Hands: 375
    Seat 4: Player4 ( $11.72 USD ) - VPIP: 35 , PFR: 7 , 3B: 2 , AF: 3.1 , Hands: 306
    Seat 5: Player5 ( $7.24 USD ) - VPIP: 93 , PFR: 0 , 3B: 0 , AF: 0.7 , Hands: 74
    Seat 6: Player6 ( $12.42 USD ) - VPIP: 20 , PFR: 19 , 3B: 11 , AF: 18.0 , Hands: 102
    Seat 7: Player7 ( $10.00 USD ) - VPIP: 27 , PFR: 16 , 3B: 4 , AF: 7.0 , Hands: 88
    Seat 8: Hero ( $10.00 USD ) - VPIP: 18 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 5 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 143001
    Player7 posts small blind $0.05 .
    Hero posts big blind $0.10 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Th: :9h:
    Player1 raises $0.30
    Player4 folds
    Player5 calls $0.30
    Player6 folds
    Player7 folds
    Hero calls $0.20


    FLOP
    :6h: :Qc: :8s:
    Hero bets $0.60
    Player1 calls $0.60
    Player5 calls $0.60


    TURN
    :Ah:
    Hero checks
    Player1 bets $1.00
    Player5 calls $1.00
    Hero calls $1.00


    RIVER
    :8d:
    Hero checks
    Player1 checks
    Player5 bets $1.00
    Hero folds
    Player1 raises $6.80
    Player5 calls $4.34
    Player5 wins $15.34 USD from main pot
    Player1 shows :Jd: :Js:
    Player5 shows :Ts: :Qs:
    Player1 wins $1.46 USD
     
  2. ceno83

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    Имам голям проблем с дроуващите мои ръце? Добре ли са изиграни и има ли по оптимален вариант когато сме с ФД, ФД+СД и СД ?
     
  3. spworks

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    ЕДИТ: Със дама десет кари оесд+фд имаш 14 аута два пъти (вале каро е спорно да ти е аут). тва значи 51% екуити (малко по-малко е защото заради пеърващите борд карти губиш от флоп сетове) но е ок да се вкараш на флопа предвид пот оддсовете. Когато имаш дроу и нямаш фолд екуити (както в случая) се научи да си смяташ оддс/имплайд оддс и си взимай решението спрямо тях. Няма какво да се чудиш, тя математиката не лъже....

    Когато мислиш че имаш фолд екуити трябва да го играеш по-агресивно дроуа и да се вкарваш дори и да си леко под имплайд оддсовете.
    Можеш да смяташ колко ти е екуитито и в ситуации с фолд екуити. Но за целта трябва да присвоиш на фолд екуитито някаква мат. величина. Пример ако мислиш че в ситуацията при твои шов той ще фолдва 20% от случаите пак можеш да сметнеш ЕВ-то. Оставям те сам да си намериш формулата.

    Офф-топик: чудя се как играеш от толкова време и не знаеш как да смяташ? Ако знаеше как да смяташ щеше да можеш да намериш правилното решение в всяка дроу ситуация (или поне достатъчно инфо). Ако мислиш че знаеш как да смяташ плс сметни със дама десет кари ръката на търна какви имплаид оддс имаш за кол и колко екуити.
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2012
  4. Desis

    Desis
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    С QTs със str8/fd може да си я засилиш от флопа
    Последната с 9Тs търна не ми харесва, бих барелнал Асото винаги
    Иначе ФД+СД/ФД+чифт спокойно си ги фастплейвай от флопа и се стаквай за да може да ти се изплащат
     

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