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Discussion in 'Poker Hands' started by jordii, May 16, 2010.

  1. jordii

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    Hand # 3327669784 starting - 2010-05-16 07:24:57
    Porcupine Surpise 2 Omaha (0.50|1 PL - Cash Game) Real Money

    poppen2000 sitting in seat 1 with €123.78
    ROTT sitting in seat 2 with €240.88 Dealer
    sinto sitting in seat 3 with €22.08
    shayal sitting in seat 4 with €157.14
    davezz5 sitting in seat 5 with €100.00
    Hero sitting in seat 6 with €102.59
    sinto posted the small blind - €0.50
    shayal posted the big blind - €1.00

    Dealing cards to Hero: :As: :4c: :Ad: :9d:
    Hero raised to €3.00
    poppen2000 folded
    ROTT raised to €10.50
    sinto folded
    shayal folded
    Hero raised to €33.00
    ROTT called - €33.00


    FLOP
    :9s: :Jc: :Qs:
    Hero checked
    ROTT bet - €67.50
    Hero went all-in - €69.59
    ROTT called - €69.59


    TURN
    :6d:


    RIVER
    :3c:
    Hero shows:
    :As: :4c: :Ad: :9d:
    ROTT shows:
    :4s: :6h: :3d: :5h:
    ROTT wins €203.68 from the main pot

    Rake: €3
     
  2. jordii

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    Botafogo we were having a major discussion about what is better in this spot.

    i was not sure if C/F > C/C > all in
    or C/C > C/F > all in

    i don`t play much against the player.
    But i trough that his 3bet range is pretty wide.
     
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    In general, in long run if we push, or check call our 67% of our stack here versus 1 opponent, is it going to be a profitable or losing play, this is my main question!?
     
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    if its going to be a profitable play caiko is going to wear a donkey outfit so PLS GOD one time
     
  5. Botafogo

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    That's definitely a spot where, I would c/f 99% of the time. This board just hits his 3-bet defend range right in the center! It's definitely OK to 4-bet AAxx preflop and c/fold on some boards OOP where you are often crushed versus his range and you have almost no redraws. If the J on the flop was a diamond at least you have a BDNFD, but on this flop you are often crushed very hard. You need to call 69 to win 200, so you need 69/200 = 35% to break even. There are so many JQTK, T897, JQ9T in his range, that I doubt you will have 35% vs his range, it's probably more like 20-25%, so I would say it's a loosing play in the long run.
     
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    i guess then all in is out of the question then.
    but can u sometimes consider a check call ?

    also why you don`t lie something for 10 days or so.

    its a DONKEY OUTFIT ..
     
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  7. caiko

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    No donkey outfit for me (FINGER) :D
     
  8. Botafogo

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    What does it mean to lie for 10 days or so?

    I wouldn't check/call that often, this is just the WORST board that I want to see with aces, after I 4-bet. Only versus a complete monkey like this guy I might call if I have seen him push here with complete garbage, but versus a decent regular I would fold happily.
     
  9. jordii

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    I mean to tell that its profitable to check call so caiko will put the outfit so we can make a lot of picture with him and then say its bad ahhahaha ;d
     
  10. Botafogo

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    hahahhaha. I took that post TOO seriously. Jordie you should have told me in SKype to lie, I would have done it to get caiko in donkey outfit. Now it's too late, I feel stupid :)
     
  11. caiko

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    Wouldnt believe it, if you said different!!!! :)
     

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