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Discussion in 'Покер ръце' started by ceno83, Mar 12, 2011.

  1. ceno83

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    Втори шот на 20нл този мeсeц първа сeрия. Пускам 5 загубeни и 5 спeчeлeни ръцe , като иматe в прeдвит чe играя за първи път тук и искам мнeниe къдe грeша в тeзи ръцe

    5 най-голeми ЗАГУБИЛИ ръцe:


    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $20.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday , March 12 , 09:05:58 ET 2011
    Table Surabaya (Real Money)
    Seat 1 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero ( $21.93 USD ) - VPIP: 20 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 3 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 288326
    Seat 9: Player9 ( $32.35 USD ) - VPIP: 46 , PFR: 30 , 3B: 19 , AF: 4.5 , Hands: 50
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $21.99 USD ) - VPIP: 33 , PFR: 33 , 3B: 50 , AF: Infinity , Hands: 6
    Hero posts small blind $0.10 .
    Player9 posts big blind $0.20 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Ac: :Ad:
    Player1 raises $0.50
    Hero raises $1.60
    Player9 calls $1.50
    Player1 calls $1.20


    FLOP ($5.10)
    :Kc: :Qs: :6s:
    Hero bets $3.80
    Player9 calls $3.80
    Player1 folds


    TURN ($12.70)
    :Jc:
    Hero checks
    Player9 bets $9.50
    Hero raises $16.43
    Player9 calls $6.93


    RIVER ($45.56)
    :4c:
    Player9 wins $44.06 USD from main pot
    Hero shows :Ac: :Ad:
    Player9 shows :9s: :Th:


    2:

    History for hand R5-126599139-2411
    Start hand: Sat Mar 12 21:57:11 GMT+0200 2011
    Table: Espoo 126599139 (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $0.10/$0.20 , Real money)
    User: ShowMyCard
    Button: seat 4
    Players in round: 5
    Seat 5: ShowMyCard ($20.03)
    Seat 9: Franco_23 ($46.90)
    Seat 1: p00pax ($23.52)
    Seat 3: alee1980 ($15.07)
    Seat 4: PARMA1... ($16.67)
    ShowMyCard posts small blind ($0.10)
    Franco_23 posts big blind ($0.20)
    ---
    Dealing pocket cards
    Dealing to ShowMyCard: :Ah: :Kh:
    p00pax raises $0.50 to $0.50
    alee1980 folds
    PARMA1... folds
    ShowMyCard raises $1.30 to $1.40
    Franco_23 folds
    p00pax raises $3.50 to $4
    ShowMyCard raises $5.60 to $7
    p00pax raises $19.52 to $23.52 all in
    ShowMyCard calls $13.03 all in
    ---

    FLOP
    :7d: :6h: :2s:

    TURN
    :3h:

    RIVER
    :2d:
    ---
    Summary:
    Main pot: $40.26 won by p00pax ($38.76)
    Rake taken: $1.50
    Seat 5: ShowMyCard ($0) , net: -$20.03 , :Ah: :Kh: (PAIR TWO)
    Seat 9: Franco_23 ($46.70) , net: -$0.20
    Seat 1: p00pax ($42.25) , net: +$18.73 , :Ks: :Kc: (TWO_PAIR KING , TWO)
    Seat 3: alee1980 ($15.07)
    Seat 4: PARMA1... ($16.67)
    End of hand R5-126599139-2411



    3:

    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $20.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday , March 12 , 09:38:20 ET 2011
    Table Ramona (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 4: Player4 ( $25.32 USD ) - VPIP: 19 , PFR: 15 , 3B: 4 , AF: 2.4 , Hands: 1944
    Seat 9: Hero ( $29.36 USD ) - VPIP: 20 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 3 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 288326
    Seat 10: Player10 ( $18.52 USD ) - VPIP: 29 , PFR: 4 , 3B: 0 , AF: 4.3 , Hands: 103
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $15.08 USD ) - VPIP: 49 , PFR: 7 , 3B: 5 , AF: 1.5 , Hands: 111
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $15.04 USD ) - VPIP: 36 , PFR: 20 , 3B: 33 , AF: 1.5 , Hands: 25
    Player4 posts small blind $0.10 .
    Hero posts big blind $0.20 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Ac: :Qh:
    Player10 calls $0.20
    Player2 calls $0.20
    Player3 folds
    Player4 folds
    Hero raises $0.60
    Player10 folds
    Player2 calls $0.60


    FLOP
    :5s: :Jd: :Qc:
    Hero bets $1.40
    Player2 calls $1.40


    TURN
    :4s:
    Hero bets $3.50
    Player2 calls $3.50


    RIVER
    :Kd:
    Hero bets $8.00
    Player2 calls $8.00
    Player2 wins $26.32 USD from main pot
    Hero shows :Ac: :Qh:
    Player2 shows :Qd: :Ks:


    4:

    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $20.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday , March 12 , 10:47:48 ET 2011
    Table Butare (Real Money)
    Seat 9 is the button
    Seat 10: Player10 ( $40.00 USD ) - VPIP: 37 , PFR: 8 , 3B: 1 , AF: 1.1 , Hands: 317
    Seat 1: Hero ( $20.50 USD ) - VPIP: 20 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 3 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 288326
    Seat 5: Player5 ( $10.93 USD ) - VPIP: 61 , PFR: 43 , 3B: 33 , AF: 5.7 , Hands: 23
    Seat 7: Player7 ( $23.49 USD ) - VPIP: 24 , PFR: 12 , 3B: 0 , AF: 0.3 , Hands: 25
    Seat 9: Player9 ( $7.68 USD ) - VPIP: 45 , PFR: 5 , 3B: 0 , AF: 1.3 , Hands: 20
    Player10 posts small blind $0.10 .
    Hero posts big blind $0.20 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Kh: :Kd:
    Player5 raises $0.40
    Player7 folds
    Player9 folds
    Player10 calls $0.30
    Hero raises $1.30
    Player5 calls $1.10
    Player10 folds


    FLOP
    :Ts: :Qd: :Qh:
    Hero checks
    Player5 checks


    TURN
    :8s:
    Hero bets $1.70
    Player5 calls $1.70


    RIVER
    :7d:
    Hero checks
    Player5 bets $6.80
    Hero calls $6.80
    Player5 wins $19.38 USD from main pot
    Player5 shows :6h: :9h:



    5:


    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $20.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday , March 12 , 10:33:04 ET 2011
    Table Ramona (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 6: Player6 ( $19.60 USD ) - VPIP: 11 , PFR: 11 , 3B: 8 , AF: 1.6 , Hands: 72
    Seat 9: Hero ( $29.02 USD ) - VPIP: 20 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 3 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 288326
    Seat 10: Player10 ( $27.99 USD ) - VPIP: 29 , PFR: 4 , 3B: 0 , AF: 4.3 , Hands: 103
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $28.54 USD ) - VPIP: 49 , PFR: 7 , 3B: 5 , AF: 1.5 , Hands: 111
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $20.65 USD ) - VPIP: 63 , PFR: 26 , 3B: 0 , AF: 1.7 , Hands: 19
    Player6 posts small blind $0.10 .
    Hero posts big blind $0.20 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Ac: :Qs:
    Player10 folds
    Player2 calls $0.20
    Player3 raises $0.40
    Player6 folds
    Hero raises $0.70
    Player2 calls $0.70
    Player3 calls $0.50


    FLOP
    :7d: :5d: :4h:
    Hero checks
    Player2 checks
    Player3 checks


    TURN
    :Qh:
    Hero bets $2.00
    Player2 calls $2.00
    Player3 calls $2.00


    RIVER
    :Qd:
    Hero checks
    Player2 checks
    Player3 bets $4.40
    Hero calls $4.40
    Player2 folds
    Player3 wins $16.72 USD from main pot
    Player3 shows :6d: :4d:





    5 най добри спeчeлeни ръцe:



    1:

    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $20.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday , March 12 , 08:57:31 ET 2011
    Table Multan (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 4: Player4 ( $19.93 USD ) - VPIP: 10 , PFR: 5 , 3B: 0 , AF: 1.6 , Hands: 79
    Seat 6: Hero ( $19.70 USD ) - VPIP: 20 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 3 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 288326
    Seat 8: Player8 ( $21.37 USD ) - VPIP: 11 , PFR: 11 , 3B: 25 , AF: Infinity , Hands: 27
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $11.23 USD ) - VPIP: 44 , PFR: 11 , 3B: 0 , AF: 1.6 , Hands: 113
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $28.94 USD ) - VPIP: 19 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 5 , AF: 9.0 , Hands: 84
    Player4 posts small blind $0.10 .
    Hero posts big blind $0.20 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Kh: :Ad:
    Player8 raises $0.60
    Player2 folds
    Player3 calls $0.60
    Player4 folds
    Hero raises $1.80
    Player8 calls $1.40
    Player3 calls $1.40


    FLOP
    :7s: :As: :5s:
    Hero bets $4.60
    Player8 raises $19.37
    Player3 folds
    Hero calls $13.10


    TURN
    :5d:


    RIVER
    :8d:
    Hero wins $40.00 USD from main pot
    Hero shows :Kh: :Ad:
    Player8 shows :Qs: :Jd:
    Player8 wins $1.67 USD


    ................


    2:

    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $20.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday , March 12 , 10:46:44 ET 2011
    Table Ramona (Real Money)
    Seat 6 is the button
    Seat 9: Hero ( $36.35 USD ) - VPIP: 20 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 3 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 288326
    Seat 10: Player10 ( $29.28 USD ) - VPIP: 29 , PFR: 4 , 3B: 0 , AF: 4.3 , Hands: 103
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $33.98 USD ) - VPIP: 49 , PFR: 7 , 3B: 5 , AF: 1.5 , Hands: 111
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $19.78 USD ) - VPIP: 63 , PFR: 26 , 3B: 0 , AF: 1.7 , Hands: 19
    Seat 6: Player6 ( $19.90 USD ) - VPIP: 11 , PFR: 11 , 3B: 8 , AF: 1.6 , Hands: 72
    Hero posts small blind $0.10 .
    Player10 posts big blind $0.20 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Qc: :Qd:
    Player2 calls $0.20
    Player3 calls $0.20
    Player6 folds
    Hero raises $0.80
    Player10 folds
    Player2 calls $0.70
    Player3 calls $0.70


    FLOP
    :Jh: :2d: :Tc:
    Hero bets $2.20
    Player2 folds
    Player3 calls $2.20


    TURN
    :4d:
    Hero bets $4.00
    Player3 raises $16.68
    Hero calls $12.68


    RIVER
    :Kd:
    Hero wins $39.16 USD from main pot
    Hero shows :Qc: :Qd:
    Player3 shows :5s: :Jc:



    3:


    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $20.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday , March 12 , 10:11:49 ET 2011
    Table Espoo (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 4: Player4 ( $16.09 USD ) - VPIP: 79 , PFR: 21 , 3B: 0 , AF: 1.4 , Hands: 39
    Seat 5: Hero ( $20.00 USD ) - VPIP: 20 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 3 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 288326
    Seat 9: Player9 ( $39.55 USD ) - VPIP: 21 , PFR: 17 , 3B: 3 , AF: 24.0 , Hands: 145
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $41.53 USD ) - VPIP: 20 , PFR: 19 , 3B: 16 , AF: 2.2 , Hands: 95
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $23.85 USD ) - VPIP: 49 , PFR: 12 , 3B: 3 , AF: 7.5 , Hands: 94
    Player4 posts small blind $0.10 .
    Hero posts big blind $0.20 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Qh: :4h:
    Player9 folds
    Player1 folds
    Player3 calls $0.20
    Player4 calls $0.10
    Hero checks


    FLOP
    :8c: :4s: :Qd:
    Player4 bets $0.60
    Hero raises $2.00
    Player3 calls $2.00
    Player4 folds


    TURN
    :3h:
    Hero bets $3.90
    Player3 raises $7.80
    Hero raises $13.90
    Player3 calls $10.00


    RIVER
    :Kc:
    Hero wins $39.30 USD from main pot
    Hero shows :Qh: :4h:
    Player3 shows :Ah: :Ac:




    4:


    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $20.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday , March 12 , 10:41:49 ET 2011
    Table Ramona (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 6: Player6 ( $14.30 USD ) - VPIP: 11 , PFR: 11 , 3B: 8 , AF: 1.6 , Hands: 72
    Seat 9: Hero ( $20.72 USD ) - VPIP: 20 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 3 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 288326
    Seat 10: Player10 ( $29.88 USD ) - VPIP: 29 , PFR: 4 , 3B: 0 , AF: 4.3 , Hands: 103
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $26.31 USD ) - VPIP: 49 , PFR: 7 , 3B: 5 , AF: 1.5 , Hands: 111
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $34.53 USD ) - VPIP: 63 , PFR: 26 , 3B: 0 , AF: 1.7 , Hands: 19
    Player6 posts small blind $0.10 .
    Hero posts big blind $0.20 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Kd: :As:
    Player10 calls $0.20
    Player2 calls $0.20
    Player3 raises $0.40
    Player6 folds
    Hero raises $1.05
    Player10 folds
    Player2 calls $1.05
    Player3 calls $0.85


    FLOP
    :8d: :3d: :Qs:
    Hero checks
    Player2 checks
    Player3 bets $0.20
    Hero raises $1.50
    Player2 folds
    Player3 calls $1.30


    TURN
    :Kh:
    Hero bets $5.30
    Player3 calls $5.30


    RIVER
    :9d:
    Hero bets $3.50
    Player3 raises $7.00
    Hero calls $3.50
    Hero wins $30.15 USD from main pot
    Hero shows :Kd: :As:
    Player3 shows :8s: :5s:



    5:


    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $20.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday , March 12 , 10:13:32 ET 2011
    Table Espoo (Real Money)
    Seat 5 is the button
    Seat 9: Player9 ( $39.35 USD ) - VPIP: 21 , PFR: 17 , 3B: 3 , AF: 24.0 , Hands: 145
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $41.53 USD ) - VPIP: 20 , PFR: 19 , 3B: 16 , AF: 2.2 , Hands: 95
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $3.05 USD ) - VPIP: 49 , PFR: 12 , 3B: 3 , AF: 7.5 , Hands: 94
    Seat 4: Player4 ( $16.30 USD ) - VPIP: 79 , PFR: 21 , 3B: 0 , AF: 1.4 , Hands: 39
    Seat 5: Hero ( $39.20 USD ) - VPIP: 20 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 3 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 288326
    Player9 posts small blind $0.10 .
    Player1 posts big blind $0.20 .



    Dealt to Hero: :3h: :3c:
    Player3 folds
    Player4 calls $0.20
    Hero calls $0.20
    Player9 folds
    Player1 checks


    FLOP
    :8s: :Ac: :4c:
    Player1 checks
    Player4 checks
    Hero checks


    TURN
    :5c:
    Player1 checks
    Player4 bets $0.20
    Hero calls $0.20
    Player1 folds


    RIVER
    :2c:
    Player4 bets $5.00
    Hero raises $38.80
    Player4 calls $10.90
    Hero wins $31.40 USD from main pot
    Hero shows :3h: :3c:
    Hero wins $22.90 USD



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    Hand History for Game 1111111111 (On Game)
    $20.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday , March 12 , 09:20:10 ET 2011
    Table Ramona (Real Money)
    Seat 9 is the button
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $22.80 USD ) - VPIP: 49 , PFR: 7 , 3B: 5 , AF: 1.5 , Hands: 111
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $20.00 USD ) - VPIP: 16 , PFR: 12 , 3B: 17 , AF: 0.8 , Hands: 25
    Seat 7: Player7 ( $20.00 USD ) - VPIP: 50 , PFR: 0 , 3B: NaN , AF: 0.5 , Hands: 2
    Seat 9: Hero ( $18.01 USD ) - VPIP: 20 , PFR: 14 , 3B: 3 , AF: 2.1 , Hands: 288326
    Player2 posts small blind $0.10 .
    Player3 posts big blind $0.20 .
    Player7 posts big blind $0.20 .



    Dealt to Hero: :5h: :5d:
    Player7 checks
    Hero raises $0.60
    Player2 calls $0.50
    Player3 folds
    Player7 calls $0.40


    FLOP
    :7c: :4s: :3h:
    Player2 bets $0.20
    Player7 calls $0.20
    Hero calls $0.20


    TURN
    :6s:
    Player2 checks
    Player7 checks
    Hero bets $1.75
    Player2 calls $1.75
    Player7 calls $1.75


    RIVER
    :9s:
    Player2 checks
    Player7 bets $3.00
    Hero calls $3.00
    Player2 calls $3.00
    Hero wins $16.01 USD from main pot
    Player7 shows :9h: :8h:
    Hero shows :5h: :5d:
     
  2. kaweeo

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    1.2 труден фолд пре
    1.3 ч/ф ривер или по малък бет и фолд то рейз
    1.4 ЦБЕТ флоп
    1.5 фолд ривер ...
     
  3. kaweeo

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    ИМО
     
  4. JimRaynoR

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    1. bet turn
    2. fold to 4bet
    3. ok
    4. cbet
    5. po-golqm 3bet preflop
     
  5. kaweeo

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    на 1.5 съм видял 3 кари на флопа моя грешка сри бтв +1 за дебелия 3бет
     
  6. rvg

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    1 и 3 са чист overplay на тия бордове, щот вече не биеш кой знае кво, 4 чека на флопа е напълно безмислен, 5 ривъра бет/фолд>чек/кол
     
  7. SoWrong

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    По-големи рейзове пре ...
     
  8. rvg

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    от другите 4-та ривъра или се набиваш или чек фолдваш
     
  9. girru

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    po-golemi iso/3bets/sqz-ove.. mnogo sa ti malki i si gi pravish i OOP koeto e dosta zle imo.. gl
     
  10. ahtung

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    this
     
  11. gulf

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    Доста грешки си допуснал, не се стаквай с AK префлоп на 20NL, освен, ако не е много агресивен и с висок 4бет.
    Изолациите ги прави x5, ако си извън позиция даже x6 блинда.
    Малки 3бети правиш когато има лимпери и някой е рейзнал.

    Player10 calls $0.20
    Player2 calls $0.20
    Player3 raises $0.40
    Player6 folds
    Hero raises $1.05

    Виж си 3бета тук, каниш всички в ръката, а даже и с аса да си, няма да ти е приятно да видиш флоп срещу 3-ма.

    Player10 calls $0.20
    Player2 calls $0.20
    Player3 folds
    Player4 folds
    Hero raises $0.60

    Направи го до 1.40, извън позиция си.
     
  12. pe3ucTop

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    1. по-голям 3бет.

    2. Като цяло стандард НО... 3бета ти е малък. извън позиция си, трябва да го вдигнеш поне 3х+1-2блинда, много зависи и от опонента де, ако е някакъв тотален нит имаш вариант и за фолд.

    3. сайзинга не ми харесва. Прелфлоп имаш двама caller-i, поне до 1,20 трябва да ги изолираш, още повече като не си в позиция. После пък в 1.6 пот слагаш 1.4 на флопа, и в 4.4 на търна слагаш 3.5. Доста са големи тея бетове, особено след като няма кой знае колко draw-ове. Кажи речи единствените, които те притесняват са KT и 9T. Ако ги направиш примерно 1 в 1.6 на флопа и 2.5 в 3.6 на търна може на ривъра да направиш един блокър в стил... 4-4.5 в 8.6 и да фолднеш на шова му, като се има предвид, че агресията му е доста ниска и аз лично не вярвам да блъфира тоя ривър, който удря немалко и от твоя рейндж.

    4. пак същото - сайзинга на 3бета - прави го малко по-голям извън позиция, особено като имаш минрейз и caller преди тебе. Аз лично наказвам минрейзовете и 3бета го правя такъв какъвто би бил ако open-a е стандартен 3блинда. В случая с caller преди теб. 3x.60+1-2blinda... 2-2.2. После защо чекваш флопа? Бет флоп и си заминава човека без да имаш ядове. В случая ти до края на ръката не знаеш къде се намираш щото си чекнал флопа.

    5. Пак сайзинг на 3бета. Абсолютно никакъв смисъл от мин 3бет извън позиция срещу лимпер и минрейзър.
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    от статистиките ти... 20-14/ 3 3бет...пробвай да вдигнеш 3бета до 5-6, за сметка на call-ове префлоп. т.е. стата да стане нещо в стил 20/17 5-6 3bet. Агресията ти не е лоша, но може да се вдигне малко като че ли до 2.5-3.
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2011

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