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50 NL - JQs ip vs 3bet from SB

Discussion in 'Texas Holdem Hand Discussion' started by kadinov, May 23, 2010.

  1. kadinov

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    Hand History for Game 3340399978 (Prima)
    $50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday , May 23 , 03:48:49 ET 2010
    Table DeepStack3 (Real Money)
    Seat 6 is the button
    Seat 1: naskoxx ( $42.58 USD )
    Seat 2: Apollo4563 ( $50.50 USD )
    Seat 3: SaNaRoSa ( $67.52 USD )
    Seat 4: omelhor ( $64.66 USD )
    Seat 5: Hero ( $80.44 USD )
    Seat 6: Pharmasplint ( $53.37 USD )
    naskoxx posts small blind $0.25 .
    Apollo4563 posts big blind $0.50 .

    Dealt to Hero: :Js: :Qs:
    SaNaRoSa folds
    omelhor folds
    Hero raises $1.50
    Pharmasplint folds
    naskoxx raises $4.25
    Apollo4563 folds
    Hero calls $3.00


    FLOP ($9.50)
    :8h: :7s: :Jh:
    naskoxx bets $6.75
    Hero raises $75.94
    naskoxx calls $31.08


    TURN ($123.27)
    :Jd:


    RIVER ($123.27)
    :4s:
    naskoxx shows :Jc: :Ah:
    Hero doesn't show :Js: :Qs:
    naskoxx wins $82.16 USD from main pot
    Hero wins $38.11 USD from main pot



    Naskoxx is break-even 23/17 reg. We have history in the given session, having more 3bets than usual.
    His cbet after 3bet is 72%
    Anything else besides shove here?
     
  2. Wonderful

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    yep fold pf
    flop is ok-ish, call is also fine if you know his turn tendencies
     
  3. kadinov

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    Why would I fold pre-flop. He is 3betting me a lot more in the given session.I had to playback somehow.
     
  4. Wonderful

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    is he 3b'ing over 10%?
    TT+,AJs+,KQs,AJo+,KQo this is 7% value 3b range with no bluffs
     
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    I dont like your shove at all. I cant see which better hands he will fold? Normally you wouldnt play set or straight that way. I am sure he had tough time to call with his particular hand but with almost 90% of his 3betting range he will ( any top pair any nut FD with overcards he may 3bet you with TT or JJ or 78s so you will fold all his 3bet junk and if u get a call u're crushed. I dont think this is a good flop to play back. Call flop is better and with that turn i am sure the final outcome would be the same but nevertheless there're times that you can outplay him on the turn given his turn tendencies
     
  6. Zografa

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    i think defending QJs is ok in this spot, but raising flop is kinda bad - u will not fold a better hand and if you get action you will be ALWAYS behind.

    simply call it - you have backdoor + he will stop on almost all turns if he dosnt have real hand
     

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