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10plo deep

Discussion in 'Omaha Hand Discussion' started by ShLiM, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. ShLiM

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    Hand History for Game 2145210834 (Boss)
    $10.00 USD PL Omaha - Friday , April 23 , 01:07:00 ET 2010
    Table Table OH 596 (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 1: wad3 ( $25.13 USD )
    Seat 2: Ämpäripää ( $10.00 USD )
    Seat 3: Hero ( $34.98 USD )
    wad3 posts small blind $0.05 .
    Ämpäripää posts big blind $0.10 .



    Dealt to Hero: :Qh: :Kd: :8s: :Jd:
    Hero raises $0.35
    wad3 raises $1.10
    Ämpäripää folds
    Hero calls $0.80


    FLOP ($2.40)
    :3d: :7c: :Tc:
    wad3 bets $1.80
    Hero calls $1.80


    TURN ($6.00)
    :Ah:
    wad3 bets $4.50
    Hero calls $4.50


    RIVER ($15.00)
    :Th:
    wad3 bets $10.90
    Hero folds
    wad3 wins $10.90 USD
    wad3 wins $14.25 USD from main pot




    whats the best play here?
     
  2. ShLiM

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    i have 28% on flop vs AA**
    and 28% on turn vs AA**
    he is somewhat agro so i think he will call me some medium bet on non club river that filled my hand, like i was bluffing missed FD
    is that make sense?
     
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    I just check/fold flop here. Not having the FD here REALLY hurts your hand especially so DEEP, because there are reverse implied odds if you hit any of your straights with a club.

    You are OOP, and c/calling the flop here with a gutshot and some backdoor straight outs, 1/4 of which may be dead if he has the FD, is a bad play. Don't draw to non nut hands OOP, especially deep - it is just a loosing play in the long run. This is my advice.

    If you wanted to continue on this hand postflop, I suggest leading the flop, because if he has AAxx, and doesn't have the clubs, than you can semi-bluff lead because this flop hits your 3-bet calling range, which must include a lot of medium rundowns. If he calls flop there are many turns that you can give you a lot of straightdraw outs, and you can profitably 2-barrel. At least by leading you take away the initiative and you let villain play guessing games and define his range, because if you c/c flop and turn, then you are the one who is defining his hand as a Draw, and you have to be guessing what villain might have and which turns and rivers are actually good for you.

    When you call a 3-bet OOP, always look at the board and think, can I represent anything on this flop, does it hit my perceived range and is this board scary for villians range. If yes, it is very profitable to lead on semi-bluffs exactly with a hand like yours because you have a lot of backdoor outs+gutshot, and you will get many folds on flop or turn if villain has an overpair AAxx, kKxx.
     
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    am i missing something but i think im IP
     
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    Oh yeah, sorry, I overlooked the hand. In that case you played it great. But it is still helpful to get advise on how to play it if you were OOP, right?
     
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    absolutely, thx for the input
     

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