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10plo 200bb deep

Discussion in 'Omaha Hand Discussion' started by ShLiM, Apr 16, 2010.

  1. ShLiM

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    Hand History for Game 2133352097 (Boss)
    $10.00 USD PL Omaha - Thursday , April 15 , 11:11:26 ET 2010
    Table Table OH 519 (Real Money)
    Seat 4 is the button
    Seat 1: NewNegre ( $40.38 USD )
    Seat 2: soma7311 ( $13.25 USD )
    Seat 3: Hero ( $21.72 USD )
    Seat 4: Zanderover ( $2.00 USD )
    Seat 5: lehГєzlak ( $9.35 USD )
    lehГєzlak posts small blind $0.05 .
    NewNegre posts big blind $0.10 .

    Dealt to Hero: :8s: :7h: :8h: :6c:
    soma7311 calls $0.10
    Hero raises $0.40
    Zanderover folds
    lehГєzlak calls $0.35
    NewNegre raises $1.60
    soma7311 folds
    Hero calls $1.30
    lehГєzlak calls $1.30

    FLOP ($5.20)
    :Tc: :8d: :9s:
    lehГєzlak checks
    NewNegre bets $3.70
    Hero raises $16.30
    lehГєzlak calls $7.65
    NewNegre raises $25.20
    Hero calls $3.72
    NewNegre wins $8.88 USD

    TURN ($70.65)

    RIVER ($70.65)
    NewNegre shows :Kh: :Js: :Qc: :9c:
    Hero shows :8s: :7h: :8h: :6c:
    Hero wins $50.25 USD from main pot

    newnegre was super maniac as u can see from the pic
    he was super agro pre, but postflop he played very str8forward c/f or pot pot pot
    honestly i didnt saw i had set, and wasnt super happy geting it in with str8 only

  2. Botafogo

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    Yeah, with or without a set, you should just flat flop here and see what guy behind you does, If he ships and then original raiser ships over the top, it will be a fold 200BB deep just because no one is getting it in after such action on this flop without the nuts for 200BB. If you were 100BB it is an easy pot odds call just because even vs the nuts you have about 35% equity to hit a full house. Let's do the math here to see how it looks 200BB, assuming you just falt villain's lead. Villain bets 3.7 into 5.2, you call, and guy behind raises allin to 7.65, villain back-raises to allin for your effective stack of 21.72. Total pot before action comes back to you to decide whether to call the allin is 21.72+9.35+5.2=32.67, and you have to call (21.72 -5.3) or 16.42, to win 36.27, so breakeven point is 16.42/(16.42+36.27) = 32%, so you are just above break-even on your call ONLY if both players have JQxx, or one has JQxx and the other maybe has a hand like yours 76xx. But since you are with bottom set vs 2 opponents ranges ( besides the nuts JQxx, someone could easily have a bigger set or a 2 pair, which will kill a lot of your boat outs, and you will actually have terrible equity), it is best to fold 200BB deep and only loose your $5 invested preflop+flopcall. Here is how bad your quity is vs 2ppls allin ranges on this flop

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    Hand Equity Wins Ties
    8876 9.66% 57,980 0
    JQ** 64.83% 378,494 21,006
    TT**,99**, T9** 25.50% 142,520 21,006
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